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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  08:50:00  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I called a guy on Preloved website who had advertised "Everplay drums" for sale and on looking at the picture noticed they were Aqua shimmer Premier drums. I have a kit already needing a couple of toms so called the guy up and he asked for a price which i agreed to pay.
Here's the silly part i needed them quickly as i am going away on hols soon so i didn't want to wait for cheques to clear etc so sent cash. "IDIOT" i here you say! Well yes i agree and won't make the same mistake again. Now i have called the guy who told me he'd recieved the money ok and would get back to me once me had boxed them up to give me weight and sizes of parcel for courier to collect. Nothing, ziltch,fek all since. Called him 20 times over last few days, sent texts emails etc etc but it seems sometimes he turns his phone off to avoid my calls. He is in London so not somewhere i could just drop by unfortunately.
Well one lesson learned by me is never trust anyone apart from my Mom Ps don't anyone try buying this kit off preloved the guy is a scammer! His user name on there is MEME please steer clear.

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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:03:35  Show Profile  Visit Pegdrummer's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's awful. Is there no one in the London area that could help? Send the Dolbear massive round his house to collect them

If not, we'll get Super Ted to drop by

How much was it?

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Prog
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:04:43  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Do you have his name and address?

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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:09:19  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I do have his name , address and his mobile number which i seem to now know from memory as i have called it a few times now ha!
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Prog
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:16:55  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Then surely all is not lost. Have you taken the matter any further?

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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:30:02  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes i have slapped myself 5 times and tried for half an hour to kick myself up the arse but to no avail. Sorry Prog answer to your serious Q is apart from texing and calling him i don't really know what else i can do.
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MrNoisy
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:30:55  Show Profile  Visit MrNoisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Go and cal on him if you have his address .... I am sure a few of us on here would be escorts for the day wink wink

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MGM
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:40:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a number of us in and around the London area ... perhaps an e-mail to the man to point this out and to suggest to him that he should pull his finger out unless he wants the hassle of an unannounced visit from a few drummers supporting a fellow Forum member ?!

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Me2.
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:47:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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logic_user99
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:53:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's rude at best; I'd go round with a mate or two and get either your cash or the drums. Don't leave with nothing.

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Al French
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  09:59:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MGM

There are a number of us in and around the London area ... perhaps an e-mail to the man to point this out and to suggest to him that he should pull his finger out unless he wants the hassle of an unannounced visit from a few drummers supporting a fellow Forum member ?!



I'm 6'3", 18 stone and tattooed from the neck down. Not the nicest knock on the door for a thieving cnut!

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benjisonfire
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  11:18:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
tell him you can get someone to pick it up from him in london. myself and a few others are there.


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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  19:13:10  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well thanks all for your support. I have just text him and told him if no reply by 7:30 this eve i will just report it to the Local police. Awaits a call but thinking it just won't happen. Still a nice little break for me and my youngest is coming closer.
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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  19:16:16  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
just for the record this is the kit i thought i purchased!! http://www.preloved.co.uk/fuseaction-adverts.showadvert/index-1032807906/b1eeff6c.html
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Prog
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  19:30:13  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've asked him if it's still for sale.

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mark
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  19:38:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would politely ring him and tell him that you are on you way to see him right away, to collect the drums or to collect your money. I really hope you manage to get one or the other. Some people are just pond life. I hate hearing stories of these scum bags getting away with these sort of scams.
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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  19:54:51  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well no call from him so i just got off the phone with my local police who have taken all details ie His Address phone number etc etc ( sure i heard the others behind her laughing at the idiot who sent cash). They gonna call me back later or tomorrow.
Mark i did ring him several times but he will not answer his phone. I did consider he may be out or unavailable until a couple times i rang it was engaged and then i just got ring tone and after 2 rings engaged again so he may well of been rejecting my call. Maybe?
Prog if it is still for sale dont send cash lol !!
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mikeellis
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  20:18:31  Show Profile  Visit mikeellis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just made an offer. Drop me a mail Paul, we may have to "get Noisy" on this feller.

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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  20:45:40  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Police just called me back they gonna make some enquiries. Only bloody wanted the 13" aqua shimmer for a kit i have here. Mike have you got my new phone number? Had to change it due to me getting in trouble with the ladies. Tut tut!!! Maybe this is Karma!
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mikeellis
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  20:50:30  Show Profile  Visit mikeellis's Homepage  Reply with Quote
FFS, nowt new with you then!! Ladies are trouble, full stop, regardless of what you do. Ithing I got your update but it won't hurt to send again, I'll call you tomorrow.

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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  21:01:58  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok still have the old number alive till september.Please don't be too harsh on me i was faithful for 19 years but then she upped and left me with 2 kids and a bloody house full of drums to boot. So i went a little Bongo crazy, played a few rim shots too many and am now having to "beat" a hasty retreat! You still got that helmet? Might need it. Maybe shouldda played solo for a while lol.
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mark
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  21:04:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hope you manage to get it sorted out. The cheek of some folk though, I wouldn't dream of doing that to anybody, but the cheek that he knows you know where he lives aswell. Cheeky tw@t.
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eyesubmit
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  21:21:47  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well Fek me!!! we have contact. The guy got ****ed lost his phone and my details were in his phone. His pal found it and had it in his locker till an hour ago. So looks promising. Thanks for all your help guys. Happy days
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Prog
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  21:25:52  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That's convenient!

I hope it gets sorted now.

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Bucko
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  22:16:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Noway, i'm just about to do a similar thing on a smaller scale, i posted asking about the iron cobra jr and someone from the forum emailed me and said he's selling a brand new one and he asked me to send him a cheque, were still discussing how were going to do this, what are peoples thoughts?

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Prog
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  22:19:43  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is it a trusted forum member, Bucko?

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Bucko
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  22:32:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not to sure he has a 2 star rating he's called "normanhouse" seems trustworthy, sent me pics of the pedal and even offered to drop it off if he lived nearby, still waiting on the next email to find out if he lives near by, just never bought anything this way before

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JFK
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  22:38:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My advice is that if you HAVE to send cash then ask them for their bank account number so you can transfer it in - if you haven't internet banking then you can pay it over any bank counter. If they've nothing to hide then they won't mind givng you their account number (you can't do anything with an account number, just don't ask their mothers maiden name!!). If they do a runner at least you have proof that its been paid and to who ;-)

I hope it gets sorted for you (and maybe his mate should check his locker as there is obviously a gremlin in there playing with the phone!!)

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Bucko
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Posted - 28/07/2010 :  22:43:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JFK

My advice is that if you HAVE to send cash then ask them for their bank account number so you can transfer it in - if you haven't internet banking then you can pay it over any bank counter. If they've nothing to hide then they won't mind givng you their account number (you can't do anything with an account number, just don't ask their mothers maiden name!!). If they do a runner at least you have proof that its been paid and to who ;-)

I hope it gets sorted for you (and maybe his mate should check his locker as there is obviously a gremlin in there playing with the phone!!)

John



good idea, thanks i have a paypal so could do it that way

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i think we should have a new motto round here;

don't get done and be quiet about it


GET NOISY!



hopefully alls well



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Me2.
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Posted - 29/07/2010 :  07:18:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JFK

My advice is that if you HAVE to send cash then ask them for their bank account number so you can transfer it in - if you haven't internet banking then you can pay it over any bank counter. If they've nothing to hide then they won't mind givng you their account number (you can't do anything with an account number, just don't ask their mothers maiden name!!). If they do a runner at least you have proof that its been paid and to who ;-)




Why would you want to give your Bank Account number over to someone you don't know.

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oldestswinger
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Posted - 29/07/2010 :  07:51:20  Show Profile  Visit oldestswinger's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Me2.

quote:
Originally posted by JFK

My advice is that if you HAVE to send cash then ask them for their bank account number so you can transfer it in - if you haven't internet banking then you can pay it over any bank counter. If they've nothing to hide then they won't mind givng you their account number (you can't do anything with an account number, just don't ask their mothers maiden name!!). If they do a runner at least you have proof that its been paid and to who ;-)




Why would you want to give your Bank Account number over to someone you don't know.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7174760.stm



There's always the option of a crossed postal order

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Prog
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Posted - 29/07/2010 :  08:05:39  Show Profile  Visit Prog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Me2.

Why would you want to give your Bank Account number over to someone you don't know.
One does it every time one sends a cheque.

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Me2.
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Posted - 29/07/2010 :  08:31:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Obviously - but this was Internet banking related and not posting to an Address.

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eyesubmit
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Posted - 29/07/2010 :  10:20:25  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I did take a bit of a risk sending cash but have always trusted people and i did have his number and address. However i could have come a cropper so will probably not risk it next time. The chap called me a couple of times and collection is arranged for today so fingers crossed all will be well. I did email him a link to this forum/topic so who knows you guys could have made the difference yet again. I know the 6ft 3" 18 stone and tattoed from neck down would have made me throw it in the boot and deliver it within the hour!!
I will let you all know as soon as it arrives safely and once again thanks to all.
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eyesubmit
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Posted - 30/07/2010 :  10:09:08  Show Profile  Visit eyesubmit's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well here's an update. This guy called me and was all apologetic so we arranged courier for Thursday he even text me through the parcel size details etc and said he would drop me a text to let me know it's been collected. All ok i presumed..... Hmmmm no!! No text so i called him.. Yep you got it No answer. I checked courier No one home left a card. I have been calling this guy all eve yesterday and today also no answer. Maybe he got drunk again and has re-lost his phone or he is taking the urine. I'm now at a loss of what to do. I have his full address SW15 London & phone number so would have thought he would be as keen as me to resolve this.
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Posted - 30/07/2010 :  11:22:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Me2.

quote:
Originally posted by JFK

My advice is that if you HAVE to send cash then ask them for their bank account number so you can transfer it in - if you haven't internet banking then you can pay it over any bank counter. If they've nothing to hide then they won't mind givng you their account number (you can't do anything with an account number, just don't ask their mothers maiden name!!). If they do a runner at least you have proof that its been paid and to who ;-)




Why would you want to give your Bank Account number over to someone you don't know.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7174760.stm



There are a few ways in which you give your bank account number, not only in a cheque as mentioned by Prog but through internet banking and BACS.

In the Clarkson case he was stupid enough to give it out to people at will; in this case I’m talking about a seller asking for cash. It’s the seller’s bank account number that you need and if he’s not trusting enough to give you that so you can pay the cash in direct then he’s probably not to be trusted enough to send cash through the post anyway!

Also, as an aside, in the Clarkson case his bank would have sent him a confirmation that the debit had been set up but he was probably too busy matching a 800cc Robin Reliant against a Harrier Jet for his latest video to read it! That is, of course, assuming that someone did actually set up the DD (it only says 'set up' not that it had been paid out on) and that it wasn't a PR stunt (yes, I'm a cynical person!!).

Eyesubmit; maybe there is someone on the forum who could pop round?

Good Luck.

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martydrums
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Posted - 30/07/2010 :  12:17:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thing that surprises me most eyesubmit (other than the fact that you sent cash in the post, which you have already attempted to give yourself a good shoeing up the backside about, so I won't go in to that further) is that the scrote confirmed he had received your cash If he was intending to rip you off would he have not just denied receiving the cash and that would have been the end of it? Praps the boys in blue will make some progress, more likely a visit from a few Dolbearians may be required. Good luck.

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Me2.
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quote:
Originally posted by JFK

quote:
Originally posted by Me2.

quote:





Why would you want to give your Bank Account number over to someone you don't know.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7174760.stm



There are a few ways in which you give your bank account number, not only in a cheque as mentioned by Prog but through internet banking and BACS.

In the Clarkson case he was stupid enough to give it out to people at will; in this case I’m talking about a seller asking for cash. It’s the seller’s bank account number that you need and if he’s not trusting enough to give you that so you can pay the cash in direct then he’s probably not to be trusted enough to send cash through the post anyway!

Also, as an aside, in the Clarkson case his bank would have sent him a confirmation that the debit had been set up but he was probably too busy matching a 800cc Robin Reliant against a Harrier Jet for his latest video to read it! That is, of course, assuming that someone did actually set up the DD (it only says 'set up' not that it had been paid out on) and that it wasn't a PR stunt (yes, I'm a cynical person!!).

Eyesubmit; maybe there is someone on the forum who could pop round?

Good Luck.

John



You don't need a Signature for some Direct Debits. Clarkson was admitting Funds were removed and he was Back-peddling after taking the Michael out of some Gov Data Discs went AWOL and he had claimed someone can't do anything with those details.

I can see your point about THEM paying into your account. I personally would still not feel comfortable -thats me - and would refuse.

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Posted - 30/07/2010 :  21:29:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thats fair enough ;-)
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Final update!! I called this guy lots of times so had the idea of using my "Bat phone" An old orange sim i had lying around with a little credit still on it. Low and behold a woman answered "no he's not here" Well tell him to get his arse in gear and stop ****in me about or local plod will be at his door. "ok" she said i will wait in today for courier. Well that was yesterday and i now have the drums in Q in my possesion. So Phew!! alls well that ends well. Thanks again for all advice and offers of brutality.
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Posted - 31/07/2010 :  12:49:10  Show Profile  Visit MrNoisy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good lad now dont send money in the post again and learn from this

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Hell, Cuz, you do have the El Humongo cuz in the States, screw the 6'3", 18 stone, how about 6'6", 25 stone and a whole lot of ugly on an ape. Send airfare and limo next time

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